Believing in Feather Tales, part 3

Ryan Cox • October 8, 2022

Believing in Feather Tales, part 3

Last time in “Believing in Feather Tales”, the idea of dinosaurs being warm-blooded for the simple sake of them being related to birds found zero support in the fossil record.¹ This, however, has not deterred the feathered-dino proponents. Rather, they place all their faith in the belief that some dinosaurs had feathers, making them the evolutionary ancestors of modern birds.

Have there ever been any feathered dinosaurs discovered in the fossil record? NO. Despite this fact, we at Creation Truth Foundation encounter young people at pretty much every event who have been taught and now believe that dinosaurs had feathers, are related to birds, and the Biblical record of Genesis 1 is not true because of the belief in feathered dinosaurs.

Once such example was a young man at a VBS in Barnsdall, OK. He shared how he had learned of
Nanuqsaurus, which was supposedly covered with a double layer of down to keep it warm in Alaska. I invited him to look with me as to what was actually discovered. Together we found that all the paleontologists had discovered were 3 pieces of a skull, and guess how many of them had any feathers or down – zero.² The young man had been told a lie, plain and simple. In fact, the sad reality is that many of the portrayed dinosaurs in media and museums are based on a single fossil, yet entire species are named from one bone for the sake of a paleontologist’s popularity.³

In 2016, a 3.6 cm piece of amber with a feathered tail was once trumpeted as a feathered dinosaur tail, but it has since been peer-reviewed and rarely if ever presented as evidence.⁴

In 2007, media outlets exploded with news that feather quill knobs had been discovered on a
Velociraptor arm bone. Quill knobs (ulnar papillae) are strong anchor points on the ulna for the attachment of pennaceous flight feathers. Thus, quill knobs are found ONLY on the arms of FLYING birds. Two major problems arose with the announcement of the Velociraptor arm bumps as quill knobs:

1. The supposed quill knobs were on the outside of the arm, not on the end of the arm, which is how it is on all living birds with quill knobs.
2. Since quill knobs are found ONLY on FLYING birds, do paleontologists now believe
Velociraptors could fly?

For the first problem, it is simply ignored. For the second problem, the feather believers say that Velociraptor inherited the quill knobs from an ancestor that used to fly, meaning Velociraptor was a flightless bird with quill knobs.⁵ Really?!?! For one, why have there never been any other flightless birds found with quill knobs? But secondly, how does this prove that birds are descendants of feathered dinosaurs?!?! This argument is the exact opposite of what they are trying to prove! Rather, many evolutionary and creation scientists believe the supposed knobs were points of tendon attachments, seen even on mammal bones.


Fossil specimens with preserved collagen (which cannot last millions of years, showing dinosaurs to have lived and died only thousands of years ago) have been revealed by several scientists to be integumentary fibers, not feathers, formed when the dinosaur was buried and began decomposing before the mud solidified and the animal was fossilized (during the Flood).⁷ In fact, if one is going to believe the preserved collagen remains are feathers, then one has to also believe that the collagen remains of lizards, turtles, snakes, crocodiles, dolphins, and mammoths are also feathers.

Additionally, the feather faithful are dealt a severe blow when it is understood that actual bird fossils are found deeper in rock layers than their supposed dinosaurian ancestors! For example, while
Velociraptor’s evolutionary dates are around 70-74 million years ago (upper Cretaceous), the bird Anchiornis’s evolutionary dates are around 160 million years ago (upper Jurassic) and the bird Protoavis’s dates are around 210 million years ago (upper Triassic).⁹ How then are theropod dinosaurs (like Velociraptor) supposed to be the evolutionary ancestors to birds when birds with full flight capability are found buried in rock layers BELOW dinosaurs?


The science continues to declare that God’s Word is true, including Genesis 1 and its affirmative account that winged creatures were created by the Lord on the 5th day of history and dinosaurs were part of the land creatures created on day 6.

 

As Jesus said in John 17:17, “Thy Word is truth.”

  1. Another part of dinosaur anatomy that refutes endothermy (warm-bloodedness) are the supratemporal fenestrae (holes) on the tops of their heads. These fenestrae have been shown to regulate reptiles’ temperatures due to their ectothermy (cold-bloodedness). See: The Anatomical Record July 1, 2019 article “The Frontoparietal Fossa and Dorsotemporal Fenestra of Archosaurs and Their Significance for interpretations of Vascular and Muscular Anatomy in Dinosaurs”, <https://doi.org/10.1002/ar.24218>.
  2. Anthony R. Fiorillo and Ronald S. Tykoski, “A Diminutive New Tyrannosaur from the Top of the World”, PLoS One, 12 March 2014; 9(3): e912887, <10.1371/journal.pone.0091287>.
  3. 0.0025% of the fossil record is comprised of vertebrates with more than one bone. See: Dr. Andrew A. Snelling, “Where Are All the Human Fossils?”, Creation14, no 1 (Dec. 1991): 28-33.
  4. Dr. Frank Sherwin, “Another Feathered Dinosaur Tale”, 10 September 2016, <https://www.icr.org/article/another-feathered-dinosaur-tale>.
    Calvin Smith, “Feathered forerunner or flight of fancy?”, 14 January 2017, < https://creation.com/feathered-forerunner-or-flight-of-fancy>.
  5. “…ulnar papillar reduction or absence in large-bodied derived dromaeosaurids reflects loss of aerodynamic capabilities from the clade’s ancestral members.” – Alan Turner, et. al., “Feather Quill Knobs in the Dinosaur Velociraptor”, Science, 21 Sep. 2007, Vol. 317, No. 5845, p. 1721.
  6. “…animals sometimes have weird, irregularly spaced tubercles arranged in lines on various of their bones, typically located on intermuscular lines (they presumably represent partially ossified attachment sites for tendinous sheets or similar structures): I’ve seen them on mammal bones and on a theropod tibia…”. - Dr. Darren Naish, “Concavenator: an incredible allosaurid with a weird sail (or hump)… and proto feathers”, scienceblogs.com, 9 September 2010, <http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2010/09/09/concavenator-incredible-allosauroid/>.
    See also: Foth & Rauhut,
    The Evolution of Feathers (Springer, 2020).
  7. Feduccia, Lingham-Soliar, & Hinchliffe (2005), “Do Feathered Dinosaurs Exist?”, Journal of Morphology 266(2):125-166.
  8. Dr. Alan Feduccia, Romancing the Birds and Dinosaurs, Brown Walker Press, Irvine, CA, 2020, pp. 182-7.
  9. Fossil Wiki and Natural History Museum in London
Ichthyosaur pic
By Matt Miles October 2, 2025
The Flood during Noah’s day was a devastating judgement against the sin and wickedness of the time. Most people focus on what the Lord did as He saved the eight people and animals on the Ark. Yet while they were being saved, the Flood destroyed the earth and left behind some remarkable things. Geology around the globe shows water burial of plants and animals. Many of the animal remains show signs of drowning and then burial. One particular reptile that shows this is the Ichthyosaurus. From what we can understand, water was her home for everything in life, even giving birth to live young. This well designed creature may even help us trust the Word of God when it comes to the history of the Flood. In our Mobile Museum of Earth History we exhibit a research replica of an ichthyosaur called Stenopterygius quadriscissus . She is from Holzmaden, Germany and is one example of hundreds that have been found in the area. The reason we can so confidently state this fossil is a “her,” when we rarely know for sure about fossil animals, is because she is pregnant. She has three babies present with her remains: one under her tail, one in or near the birth canal, and one still inside. Our fossil is in situ, which means the fossil remains in the rock matrix it was buried in. So, the presence of momma and babies are how they were buried and not articulated in some manner after excavation. This is important to show the rapid, watery burial that must have taken place to lock this scene in the fossil record. The Flood trapped organisms all over the world in different life positions. Sometimes the fossils left behind have shown eating, hunting, sleeping, swimming, nesting, or drowning. When it comes to ichthyosaurs around the planet, there is a significant number of females that seem to be pregnant. They have been found in the fossil record on at least four continents. A fair assumption would be that Ichthyosaurs had a certain time of year they mated and gave birth to young, much like sea turtles today that nest from late spring to late fall depending on the region around the world. So it should come as no surprise that we find pregnant ichthyosaurs all around the world as the Flood lasted an entire year. It would have buried the females that were pregnant near their location of habitat.  Evolutionists maintain that ichthyosaurs lived tens to hundreds of million years ago and each of the mothers found in the fossil record just died while giving birth. This is difficult to support in a millions magnitude time scale. That would mean every time a disaster happened, millions of years apart, the right conditions existed to quickly bury ichthyosaurs that just so happened to be pregnant. It just might take some “faith” to trust that “miracle” would happen over and over again through eons of time. Or you can have faith that the Word of God’s history is correct with a judgement of man’s sin bringing global devastation through the Flood during Noah’s 600th year of life. The Word of God is trustworthy, with even the fossil record showing us glimpses of historical evidence in support of our faith. I’m so thankful we don’t need blind faith to trust our salvation! Blessings.
Furnace
By Ryan Cox October 2, 2025
14 Nebuchadnezzar spoke, saying to them, “Is it true, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego, that you do not serve my gods or worship the gold image which I have set up? 15 …if you do not worship, you shall be cast immediately into the midst of a burning fiery furnace. And who is the god who will deliver you from my hands?” 16 Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego answered and said to the king, “O Nebuchadnezzar, we have no need to answer you in this matter. 17 If that is the case, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and He will deliver us from your hand, O king. 18 But if He does not, let it be known to you, O king, that we do not serve your gods, nor will we worship the gold image which you have set up.” Daniel 3:14-18 In the 6th century BC, three young men stood up for their faith in the one true God, for which someone attempted to kill them. Today, in the 21st century AD, one young man was gunned down for his faith in the one true God. And sadly, Charlie Kirk is not the only one. According to The Esther Project, martyrdom for the cause of Christ is commonplace around the world ( theestherproject.com/statistics ). On average: 322 Christians are killed monthly. 214 churches or Christian properties are destroyed monthly. 772 forms of violence (beatings, kidnappings, etc.) against Christians are committed monthly. 100,000 to 160,000 Christians are killed annually in the 21st century. 1.093 million Christians were martyred between 2000 and 2010. And more than 70 million Christians are believed to have been martyred since the 1st century, with more than half killed in the 20th century alone under communist and fascist governments. And how should Christians respond? Peter wrote, “ if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but glorify God in this name ” (I Peter 4:16). Jesus took this a step further; He told us, “ …love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you ” (Matthew 5:44). Now, as Shawn Grant, minister at Kissimmee Christian Church, FL, preached on the Sunday following the assassination, th at may not be what you want to hear right now, but that is what Jesus has told us we must do. Why? So the world will see the difference Jesus makes! The night of and the days after the assassination, businesses did not have to board up their stores. Police and soldiers did not have to be deployed. There were no riots, no property damages, no police spat upon – only tears, prayers, and a witness to the world that Jesus is the answer. So noticeable is this to the world, there were more international press requests for the Charlie Kirk memorial service than are requested for Super Bowls. Within seven days of his death, Kirk’s ministry Turning Point USA had received over 54,000 campus chapter requests. And most importantly, scores of videos of young people considering or even deciding to give their lives to Jesus have been posted to social media platforms. 
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