Believing in Feather Tales, part 3

Ryan Cox • October 8, 2022

Believing in Feather Tales, part 3

Last time in “Believing in Feather Tales”, the idea of dinosaurs being warm-blooded for the simple sake of them being related to birds found zero support in the fossil record.¹ This, however, has not deterred the feathered-dino proponents. Rather, they place all their faith in the belief that some dinosaurs had feathers, making them the evolutionary ancestors of modern birds.

Have there ever been any feathered dinosaurs discovered in the fossil record? NO. Despite this fact, we at Creation Truth Foundation encounter young people at pretty much every event who have been taught and now believe that dinosaurs had feathers, are related to birds, and the Biblical record of Genesis 1 is not true because of the belief in feathered dinosaurs.

Once such example was a young man at a VBS in Barnsdall, OK. He shared how he had learned of
Nanuqsaurus, which was supposedly covered with a double layer of down to keep it warm in Alaska. I invited him to look with me as to what was actually discovered. Together we found that all the paleontologists had discovered were 3 pieces of a skull, and guess how many of them had any feathers or down – zero.² The young man had been told a lie, plain and simple. In fact, the sad reality is that many of the portrayed dinosaurs in media and museums are based on a single fossil, yet entire species are named from one bone for the sake of a paleontologist’s popularity.³

In 2016, a 3.6 cm piece of amber with a feathered tail was once trumpeted as a feathered dinosaur tail, but it has since been peer-reviewed and rarely if ever presented as evidence.⁴

In 2007, media outlets exploded with news that feather quill knobs had been discovered on a
Velociraptor arm bone. Quill knobs (ulnar papillae) are strong anchor points on the ulna for the attachment of pennaceous flight feathers. Thus, quill knobs are found ONLY on the arms of FLYING birds. Two major problems arose with the announcement of the Velociraptor arm bumps as quill knobs:

1. The supposed quill knobs were on the outside of the arm, not on the end of the arm, which is how it is on all living birds with quill knobs.
2. Since quill knobs are found ONLY on FLYING birds, do paleontologists now believe
Velociraptors could fly?

For the first problem, it is simply ignored. For the second problem, the feather believers say that Velociraptor inherited the quill knobs from an ancestor that used to fly, meaning Velociraptor was a flightless bird with quill knobs.⁵ Really?!?! For one, why have there never been any other flightless birds found with quill knobs? But secondly, how does this prove that birds are descendants of feathered dinosaurs?!?! This argument is the exact opposite of what they are trying to prove! Rather, many evolutionary and creation scientists believe the supposed knobs were points of tendon attachments, seen even on mammal bones.


Fossil specimens with preserved collagen (which cannot last millions of years, showing dinosaurs to have lived and died only thousands of years ago) have been revealed by several scientists to be integumentary fibers, not feathers, formed when the dinosaur was buried and began decomposing before the mud solidified and the animal was fossilized (during the Flood).⁷ In fact, if one is going to believe the preserved collagen remains are feathers, then one has to also believe that the collagen remains of lizards, turtles, snakes, crocodiles, dolphins, and mammoths are also feathers.

Additionally, the feather faithful are dealt a severe blow when it is understood that actual bird fossils are found deeper in rock layers than their supposed dinosaurian ancestors! For example, while
Velociraptor’s evolutionary dates are around 70-74 million years ago (upper Cretaceous), the bird Anchiornis’s evolutionary dates are around 160 million years ago (upper Jurassic) and the bird Protoavis’s dates are around 210 million years ago (upper Triassic).⁹ How then are theropod dinosaurs (like Velociraptor) supposed to be the evolutionary ancestors to birds when birds with full flight capability are found buried in rock layers BELOW dinosaurs?


The science continues to declare that God’s Word is true, including Genesis 1 and its affirmative account that winged creatures were created by the Lord on the 5th day of history and dinosaurs were part of the land creatures created on day 6.

 

As Jesus said in John 17:17, “Thy Word is truth.”

  1. Another part of dinosaur anatomy that refutes endothermy (warm-bloodedness) are the supratemporal fenestrae (holes) on the tops of their heads. These fenestrae have been shown to regulate reptiles’ temperatures due to their ectothermy (cold-bloodedness). See: The Anatomical Record July 1, 2019 article “The Frontoparietal Fossa and Dorsotemporal Fenestra of Archosaurs and Their Significance for interpretations of Vascular and Muscular Anatomy in Dinosaurs”, <https://doi.org/10.1002/ar.24218>.
  2. Anthony R. Fiorillo and Ronald S. Tykoski, “A Diminutive New Tyrannosaur from the Top of the World”, PLoS One, 12 March 2014; 9(3): e912887, <10.1371/journal.pone.0091287>.
  3. 0.0025% of the fossil record is comprised of vertebrates with more than one bone. See: Dr. Andrew A. Snelling, “Where Are All the Human Fossils?”, Creation14, no 1 (Dec. 1991): 28-33.
  4. Dr. Frank Sherwin, “Another Feathered Dinosaur Tale”, 10 September 2016, <https://www.icr.org/article/another-feathered-dinosaur-tale>.
    Calvin Smith, “Feathered forerunner or flight of fancy?”, 14 January 2017, < https://creation.com/feathered-forerunner-or-flight-of-fancy>.
  5. “…ulnar papillar reduction or absence in large-bodied derived dromaeosaurids reflects loss of aerodynamic capabilities from the clade’s ancestral members.” – Alan Turner, et. al., “Feather Quill Knobs in the Dinosaur Velociraptor”, Science, 21 Sep. 2007, Vol. 317, No. 5845, p. 1721.
  6. “…animals sometimes have weird, irregularly spaced tubercles arranged in lines on various of their bones, typically located on intermuscular lines (they presumably represent partially ossified attachment sites for tendinous sheets or similar structures): I’ve seen them on mammal bones and on a theropod tibia…”. - Dr. Darren Naish, “Concavenator: an incredible allosaurid with a weird sail (or hump)… and proto feathers”, scienceblogs.com, 9 September 2010, <http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2010/09/09/concavenator-incredible-allosauroid/>.
    See also: Foth & Rauhut,
    The Evolution of Feathers (Springer, 2020).
  7. Feduccia, Lingham-Soliar, & Hinchliffe (2005), “Do Feathered Dinosaurs Exist?”, Journal of Morphology 266(2):125-166.
  8. Dr. Alan Feduccia, Romancing the Birds and Dinosaurs, Brown Walker Press, Irvine, CA, 2020, pp. 182-7.
  9. Fossil Wiki and Natural History Museum in London
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By Matt Miles June 18, 2025
Over the course of time a person can accumulate many things. Most of the stuff we collect is meaningless to most everyone else, but when a person collects books, they can be treasured for a lifetime and even beyond. In this age of digital media, physical books seem to be less important to many people. Digital books are searchable, and copy/paste functions make it easy to use those great quotes. Yet, there is still something great about a physical book, things you can’t get digitally: the turning of pages, the feel of it in your hand, and the “book” smell. For our founder Dr. Sharp, physical books could never be replaced by digital. While my collection of books is growing each year, it is dwarfed by Dr. Sharp’s collection. Over the years he collected thousands of titles for research and enjoyment. Through the course of his ministry he had to sell his book collection a couple of different times to support his family, only to start collecting again when he was able to do so. When Doc passed his office full of packed bookshelves to me and said he would clear the shelves, I laughed out loud at the prospect of having loads of empty bookshelves. So I urged him to instead leave his books for my, and anyone else’s, use. Little did I understand that the four bookcases in my office were only a fraction of his entire collection. A couple of years back when Doc moved from his house, it was decided that his book collection would be stored at the office. Our thought was to establish a library, yet none of us had time to plan, organize and catalog all 79 boxes of books. They sat piled in his office until last year when my daughter Megan joined our ministry. She has a love of books, both reading and writing. So we offered her the task of cataloging and establishing Doc’s library. Can you picture me, a bbq lover, being offered a table full of succulent smoked offerings - brisket, sausage, ribs, pulled pork, chicken, turkey and all sides? Yep, that was Megan’s response to the library. For over four months she cataloged and organized the entire collection. The Dr. G. Thomas Sharp Library was completed earlier this year in his old office space, with overflow into my office. The entire 2700+ volume agglomeration is digitally cataloged for searching and locating. As you might expect, there is an extensive collection of creation and evolution subject matter, yet the library is full of many different categories. It very much reflects Doc’s love of gaining knowledge and research. An extensive commentary collection and multiple Biblical reference sections are invaluable to our ministry. There is even a whole bookcase housing books that are over 100 years old. Our desire was not to just house books but to also make a place of honor and inspiration. One wall exhibits Doc’s many diplomas, and throughout the library we have placed personal memorabilia of the mission trips he took over the years. Come, grab a book, relax in the sitting area and allow Doc’s handwritten notes from the margins or post-it notes bring a smile to your face. For those who may be more ambitious, Doc's office chair resides at the credenza for anyone to sit and be inspired to study. This is a place to honor Doc’s life and love for books. We at CTF have already utilized this great resource for further study, and we are so thankful to Diane and their family for donating these books for continued Kingdom growth. Blessings.
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